Clio’s Joshua Lenon and A.J. Axelrod Join Us on the Real Lawyers Podcast
In two separate interviews recorded at ClioCon 2025, the pair discuss the latest Legal Trends Report, payment processing for law firms and a lot more.
November 7, 2025
Apologies for getting you this week’s Real Lawyers podcast a little later than normal—there’s just so much from our time at ClioCon 2025 to work through.
While we still have a few more episodes to share that were recording at Clio, these are the last couple from the company’s fine team and specifically on developments at the conference itself.
Without further delay, let’s get to it.
Joshua Lenon on the Legal Trends Report
Lenon is Lawyer in Residence at Clio and every year he’s tasked with leading the charge on their Legal Trends Report—a vital annual publication from the company. What’s in it? Let Joshua explain.
A.J. Axelrod on Law Firm Payments
Processing lawyers’ and law firms’ payments is a big, big part of what Clio does. Kevin sat down with the man leading the charge behind it.